I first came in contact with your music, as you toured with In Gowan Ring, and was really surprised that you and your band members are long since active as musicians. What can you tell us about your origins as an artist and about the community, where your band comes from?
Well I don’t know if I´d say that I had been so active as a musician for a long time before playing with IGR… first time we toured together we had just released our first album, we had been playing for maybe three years, but had not played that much live really, and had never been on tour before, so it was quite a new experience. When it comes to the rest of the band, everybody had been playing music for quite a while, Joel with a pop group and his solo-project (Joel Munther), David with several (mainly Cirrus Winery) – most of them prog rock bands, and Anders had been playing bass with a few bands too. Also Jennie, who came along about five years ago, has her own solo project that she has been doing for quite a long time. I guess I was the least experienced one. I started playing more actively and writing songs maybe six or seven years ago, before that I could only strum a few chords on the guitar. After having started to write songs it felt like everyhitng moved on quite quickly. I have always considered myself to be a “cheater”, one that cannot “really” play guitar, I just kind of know my own songs, and I don’t “really” know how to write a song, I just pretend I do when I write them. I still don’t have the courage to call myself a “musician”, comparing myself to most of my friend musicians that started playing and writing songs when they where ten.
It has kind of been both, moving back and forth, but mainly I would call it a band but with loose structures. Most of the songs I have written alone, a few ones I and David wrote together, some I recorded alone and some with the band. We make most of the arrangements together. When we made the second album, David was as much producer as I was. Everybody in the band has contributed with their personal touch that makes the whole sound. So, no, I don’t really think of it as my solo project.
You play a large number of different instruments, the liner notes of your latest album mention guitar, harp, flute, piano and glockenspiel. Are you classically trained in their use?
I am not classically trained in any instrument… I studied music for a year at a very free form school and there I learned some basics in music theory and got the opportunity to try different things, record and play with others. I started learning flute from a friend there. Apart from that I am self taught.
Is there one instrument, you feel closer to as to the others?
I have been playing guitar the longest, but I feel closer to the flute. I felt from the very first sounds I managed to make with the flute that it is an instrument compatible with my expression. But my very very closest instrument is fo course the voice…
How does the songwriting and composing take place? Do you improvise together, or do you rather present finished ideas to the others?
Most of the time I record a song I have written with a vague arrangement and then present it to the band and then we make the fine arrangement together.
On your debut the song “And so on“ illustrates human hybris by presenting nature claiming back what mankind took away and singing about “new creatures“ emerging. What can you tell us about the concept of that song?
Well, I think when I was writing that song I was thinking a lot about the climate changes and how we use up the resources of the earth and how terrible wrong it has all gone for us.. And most of it comes from greed, wanting to have more. Sometimes when I start thinking about how sad it is, it feels comforting to think that we have been here for such a short time and that if we disappear from the Earth soon it will recover and just keep on changing. The Earth has always been changing, big times and creatures have come and gone and that will go on when we disappear. When you think of it that way, somehow it doesn’t feel as depressing, I think. In the end of the song I see a beautiful and lush seaworld forming.
Some days no, but most of the time yes. I want to believe that things can change for the good. I believe that we will be forced to change the ways of living and cut down on some things we take for granted today, but also that new technology and knowledge about sustainable energy for example will make things better, and that the resources will be better shared all over the earth. But sadly many people who are already poor will probably be poor for a while longer, and many people will suffer the new weather- and climate conditions.
As far as I know, you all come from Sweden and most of you from the Stockholm area. In which way does your environment influence your music?
To me it is not the most important thing, it is more the state of mind that makes it, but of course it is often easier to be inspired if you are in a beautiful place…
Have you got the feeling that your music is perceived differently by different kinds of people in the countries that you’ve played so far?
I have the impression that many people perceive it quite much in the same way wherever we play.. at least they say kind of the same things about what they felt when listening. But of course sometimes it feels like people are more or less interested…
Your songs are often described as otherworldly. Would you agree with such a description, and if yes – which sort of realm could be the setting of your music, and how does this world differ from all day reality?
It’s such a nice word, otherworldly. It makes me happy when somebody describe it with that word. I guess the realm would be different from song to song, but one thing I guess they have in common is that the light is kind of yellowish like when a strong sun is standing low.
How comfortable are you when reviewers call you a “bewitching folk siren“? Would you say that such a term is an appropriate description or just a lazy tag to categorize your music?
I don´t mind somebody calling me a folk siren, but it feels like quite a tired description, yes.
Regardless of the fact, that such terms have long since turned into clichés, do you regard your music as counter cultural or alternative?
I don’t know. I wouldn’t use the terms counter cultural or alternative, but I don’t think it really fits on the “folk shelf”, it is a bit too untraditional maybe. I never know what to say to people when they ask what genre my music is in.
When artists use symbols from nature and have a focus on traditional forms, they are often criticised as being escapists and avoiding to deal with problems of real life. How would you react on such kind of critique?
Oh I think that would be a very strange and stupid criticism. I don’t understand why somebody would draw that conclusion, it’s not like you don’t think about real problems or things going on in the world just because you happen to write songs about nature or play folk music. I mean, songwriters that write pop songs about love are to me as much escapists in that case. And, if music in any form is a way for some people to escape the “real world” for a while I think that’s something positive. That’s basically the biggest pleasure I get from music.
You have formed another band called Lost in Rick’s Wardrobe with more or less the same members. Is it more a side project for live shows? What can you tell us about the idea behind your new interpretations of classical folk or progressive rock songs?
It started with me and David going on a train talking about all our favourite songs that we would love to play. At the end of the train journey we had a list of the songs and a list of freinds that we thought would like to join and play these songs. So, we started this cover band simply to play our favourite songs and to let other people enjoy them. Playing with this band has been absolutely fantastic. Unfortunately the band split up recently due to various reasons, but I hope we can get back as a group soon again, cause it is such a dream to play all your favourite songs and it has been working so well. It’s great to have a chance to sing/play more heavy stuff, I really love singing songs that are a bit more rock ‘n’ roll than my songs are. When hearing that band I think I would lose the Folk siren Epithet Me and David recently joined another new band that we call “Vårt Solsystem” (Our Planitary System) with members from Dungen, Life on Earth, Promise and the Monster and other bands, we are ten people, each one symbolizing a planet in the system. We play improvised music with the characteristics and symbol meanings of every planet as the score. We start from the sun and work our way out to Pluto. It is a fantastic way of creating music.
Whilst there is an obvious connection between your music and bands like The Pentangle or Mellow Candle, the originals by Gentle Giant or Pink Floyd are further away from your own compositions. Do you enjoy a lot of different music which is not obviously close to the sort of songs that you play?
I listen to lost of different kinds of music eventhough most of the things I have in my record collection and on my mp3 player is folk, prog and psych-stuff from the 70′s, but I can just as well fall in love with a surf-garage-band song or a croner piece. Some type of music I really love to hear live, like afro beat or balkan music, but I don’t often listen to it at home. When it comes to what I put on my record player I am quite picky, but not when I hear stuff on the radio when you are out somewhere or live, I love to sing along to catchy pop songs or silly eighties ballads.
Since I listen to a lot of music made and recorded in the 60′s and 70′s it’s not surprising that people say something like that. I don’t necessarily want it to sound like it could have been made in the early 70′s but I like the sound of that era and I guess my sources of inspiration shines through. Timeless music… I don’t know what they mean with that. Maybe just that we’re not trying hard to sound modern cause none of us like the “modern sound”.
How was it for you to record with Roger Wooton? Was that something like a dream come true to perform your own songs next to Comus-material?
It was quite weird… not like a dream coming true, since it felt like such a surreal thing that you’d never dream something like that could happen. It was a big honour to play the Comus songs, really amazing and fun, but also quite scary. We were extremely nervous and had this picture of Roger to very moody and scary, joking about him ripping our heads off if we made a mistake. He turned out to be extremely friendly and charming, so we had lots of fun. We only had one late evening rehearsal together and then we did two shows. I had a very hard time learning the flute parts cause I had just begun playing half a year earlier, it felt a little bit like a kamikaze-project, but it turned out quite well I think. Still sometimes when I think about it I laugh cause it feels like such a weird thing, that we actually played with Roger Wootton.
You also contributed to a band called Promise and the Monster. How did it come about and what can you tell us about this collaboration?
Me and Billie (who is PatM) met at a festival on board of a big boat (the Melloboat festival) and talked a bit. I contacted her a while after asking her to do a concert at a club that me and two friends run. She said no two times, but the third time she agreed, and then she asked me if I wanted to sing some harmonies. We have played together for about 2.5 years now. I am not playing so much on the record, I am more her live musician. Now we mostly play as a trio, me and Jennie (who also plays live with Lisa o Piu) sing harmonies and play flute, glockenspiel, zither, drums and percussion. It is great fun to play a little of this and a little of that. Billie often has some ideas of how she wants the arrangements, but mostly we come up with the fine stuff together. I really love the songs and I have learned a lot from playing with Billie.
At the moment I am helping out a lot with two records that David is recording (he’s a sound engineer), one of a friend of ours called Laike and one that David is making with his own songs. They will be out sometime in the autumn.
I do gigs with PatM and Vårt Solsytem, but we also play some with Lisa o Piu. I have a few new songs that we plan to record sometime quite soon, so we’ll see if there might be a new Lisa o Piu album out in a while too…
(M.G. & U. S.)
Fotos: Gunilla Härefelt, Hanna Wikberg, Wim Meeus